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[修道交流] Papaji谈业力和轮回

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    Question: So what happens to one's karma after awakening?

    Papaji: According to Advaita, this body is here because of previously accumulated karma. That's how they explain it. It's like when you roll a ball on the ground, the initial momentum will determine the length of time that the ball will roll. So when someone wakes up, all the stored karma in the memory gets destroyed because there is no longer a doer of selfish actions. And the initial momentum, due to the residual effects of the karma which gave us this body, will continue up to the end of this life. This will have no affect on the awakened one. He now acts according to the circumstances that appear before him with total indifference, knowing that it is unreal. There is no future and no past for him, and he will not be reborn because he is desireless.

    Question: Do you agree with this?

    Papaji: I don't believe in karma. There is no such thing as past karma, present karma, nor future karma. For example, a man who has already been married twice is planning to get married in the near future. He married his first wife ten years, his second wife one year ago and his third marriage is just about to take place. But, in between this function of the upcoming marriage, he dies. With his death, all three wives are widowed – his past wife, recent wife and wife-to-be. Like this, when a man dies to his ego and no longer has the feeling of doership, all his karma is widowed. Karma no longer has anyone to cling to, no place to abide. A liberated man only reacts to the present circumstances and has no concept of being a doer. His ego is dead and he is absolutely free. I believe that a man who has no doubts cannot have any karma.

    Question: Right.

    Papaji: A free man who is not bound never feels that he has acted. For him, nothing ever happens. He knows that he has always been free and nothing has ever changed. How can he have any karma now, and how can he take another birth? Everything is finished for him.

    Question: So in a way you're saying that when the husband dies, his wives die too.

    Papaji: They are widowed. The husband dies, but the wives continue to live. In the case of the liberated man who has no ego, he never says "this is mine" or "this belongs to me". All doership and all sense of possession have vanished, so he is dead while alive. He can do whatever he likes because no impressions can disturb his mind. He is dead to his ego and his actions are free from any reactions, from any karma and from any self-interest. Whereas someone who thinks that he is the doer will reap the consequences of his actions. You become what you think, you see. The free man will reap the consequences of his freedom and the other man will be punished by his own thought process. But in the ultimate Truth, nothing ever exists.

    In a dream somebody becomes a king and someone else becomes a beggar, but both belong to the dream. The samsara is exactly like this. Ultimately, there have never been kings and beggars at all. Everything appears from one Source and only That is true. Once you recognise that you are that Source, then you will realise that you have always been free and never been bound. Here in satsang, some people understand this instantly, in this moment. Freedom is here and now, so why postpone it by practising something? Freedom can only be realised in this instant and all practices demand time and effort. That which is available now will be available in 30 years, so why not do it now? It is unchanging and always available here in this instant.

    另一个讲轮回的视频:PAPAJI - Why was i born?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU4U_PSXhjk

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